Shattering Cloudy Mirrors / David Xu Borgonjon Interviews Nicolás Dumit Estévez Raful at Wave Hill

David Xu Borgonjon: Your artwork tends to focus on actions such as baptism, marriage, pilgrimage, sleep, eating... Can you talk about what links these rituals in your work?

Nicolás Dumit Estévez Raful: There has been a recurrent preoccupation on my part to approach art as part of a larger experience called life. I therefore shed light on key aspects of my personal path through the day-to-day, turning them into rites of passages of a public nature. An example of this is my baptism as a Bronxite; a citizen of the Bronx. On this occasion I asked William Aguado, a long-term Bronx resident [and former Executive Director of the Bronx Council on the Arts] and Susan Newmark Fleminger, a Bronx native [and former Director of Visual Arts and Arts-in Education, Henry Street Settlement/Abrons Arts Center] to be my padrino and madrina, respectively speaking. Martha Wilson, Franklin Furnace’s Founding Director, officiated the ceremony that was attended by friends, students from Banana Kelly High School, gardeners from Drew Gardens and some curious passersby. Through my initiation into Bronxhood I sought to generate community, expand the boundaries of identity, and thank the borough that has nourished me in many ways for a quarter of a century

DXB: Much of your work—and not just your artwork—is public in that way. You have many extra-artistic practices that often put you in an institutional position, including curation, interviews, administration, that all serve to build community. What's the relationship for you between private experiences and institutional belonging?

NDER: In the case of Office Hours (OH), the project that I developed with El Museo de Barrio’s artists, audiences, and staff, it provides the context in which the institutional is re-envisioned as personal, intimate and familial. Some actions illustrating this are LuLu LoLo’s baking spree in the kitchen of El Museo, or the Communications Department’s conception of an M Callejera, a three-dimensional logo of El Museo that is meant to travel out of the confines of the institutional and into the streets of the City.

In the past, all of this blurring of art and life, personal and communal has translated into the act of inviting curators, administrators, and family members, among others, to perform with me, or to assume the role of the performer.

DBX: You've been included in an upcoming show in New Orleans called EN MAS’, which emphasizes a genealogy for Caribbean performance traditions that go back not to the European avant-garde but experiences of migration and slavery.

NDER: My first exposures to the performative, before I heard the term performance art or read RoseLee Goldberg, were the rituals of the Catholic Church as well as those of the Dominican Vodoun. With Vodoun in particular I was introduced to the vast repertoire of characters, playful or otherwise, that those mounted by the loas (spirits) embodied.

As for the exhibition EN MAS’: Carnival and Performance Art of the Caribbean, this is the brainchild of Claire Tancons and Krista Thompson; they recognized that a great deal of artistic legacies aren’t interested in passing as, or belonging to, imperial canons that dismiss that which doesn’t speak their language. Tancons and Thompson’s timely endeavor gave me the opportunity to travel back to Santiago de los Treinta Caballeros, the place where I was born in the Dominican Republic, to rethink my relationship with the local pre-Lent festivity of my early years.

I proposed to invite friends, friends of friends, and acquaintances to enact carnival behind the closed doors of the Museo Folklórico Don Tomás Morel, an institution temporarily inactive due to a traumatic loss of part of its massive collection of traditional masks, historic artifacts and other tchotchkes. The personas, ghosts, monsters, and beauties that emerged out of an eight-hours action that combined live music, healing herbs, props, bodies, and spirits attest to the carnival’s possibilities to counteract the dogmatic, the orthodox, and the canonical. Going back to where my umbilical cord is buried, as my friend Josué Gómez referred to my sojourn to the island, is a step ahead in my decolonial process. The time has come to start shattering cloudy mirrors!

WXB: What have—and will—you been doing at Wave Hill?

NDER: I just facilitated a mostly silent workshop entitled Sounding Silence and the Winter Walk for which participants strolled through the gardens and then gave shape to their experience by ways of different materials. Cell phones, cameras or any other kinds of recording devices were not permitted. The idea was to heighten some of the senses many of us cannot not make sense of because of the auditory and visual overloads common to the times. In the studio and beyond, I am developing an action (more like an inaction) within the context of the greenhouse. I plan to spend five to six hours sleeping with the tropical plants at Wave Hill.  So if, while admiring the orchids, you encountered a ghostly figure resting on a flowerbed, it is likely to be me! It is my performative attempt to continue the process of greening myself, and of embracing the World as Lover, World as Self, as Joana Macy titles her book.

ABOUT THE IMAGE ABOVE: Nicolás Dumit Estévez Raful / In Bed with the Tropicals  consists of a five-hour stopover by a sleeping subject in Wave Hill’s conservatory. This dormant being rests uninterruptedly, side by side with the vast array of orchids, lichens, air plants and ferns that make up the lush greenhouse’s collection. In this exercise, which  relies on inaction, the cessation of the most visible movements on behalf of the sleeper are meant to put him on a par with the imperceptible activity generated by the plant world around him. 

In Bed with the Tropicals conjures images of hibernation, catalepsy, the Dormition of the Virgin, and thecontinuous interplay between life and death. It also signals the urgent call for what Joanna Macy refers to as the“greening of the self” or the eco-self; an awareness for one’s inextricable interdependence with all living beings irrespective of the lesser status “humans” have assigned to them. 

 In Bed with the Tropicals  © 2015 Nicolás Dumit Estévez

This interview was originally published on the Wave Hill blog, 2015